I shouldn't waste my time arguing with ignorance. So it’s not a contradiction because suppressed Jiren was above UIO1 in the first place. 0. In scenario 2 I was clear about my thought that Goku would win, in the first one I wasn't sure. UIO2 Goku should have the AP advantage here Since GoD Toppo was slightly stronger than the initial SSBE Vegeta that was equal to Post-UIO2 SSBKKx20 Goku. SSBE Vegeta>Toppo≥ UIO2 Goku based on feats > Evidence that the amp wasn’t from UIO2? She’s superior to UIO2 but not more than 2x because she was overpowered by a Kamehameha. This. He didn’t sense or fight Kefla, so she obviously wouldn’t be included there. While Jiren even acknowledged Vegeta's punch to be powerful. AP of both? And I explained, using the other UIO showings, why UIO2 should be vastly above UIO1. It would be more fair if you used Broly Saga SSB Goku instead. And Jiren was clearly shown to take damage from one of UIO1’s attacks, so... it clearly doesn’t because Vegeta’s own words wouldn’t include Kefla. Son Goku: Toppo Incon: Loading editor. Scenario 2: ToP rules. Pretty sure I’ve also mentioned this before, and with how much you like to contest me on this, I’d think you’d know that already. But Goku & Vegeta withstanded strikes from a serious Jiren. This is more on the speculation side. Post-UIO2 SSB Goku was scared from Jiren unleashing a hint of his true power, and then went Kaioken on top of that. Toppo should beat UIO2 via higher AP and equaled level of skill. Do you see the problem with your dumb reasoning? Jiren was shocked when he got hit, not actually hurt. Top is a humble, hot-blooded, and respectful, fighter who strongly believes in justice. If someone could point one out, that would be great, but until then it seems to me that Goku pretty much stomps. Save changes Preview Cancel. Besides Jiren was superior to UIO1 because he only landed two hits that did next to no damage against Jiren and effortlessly caught Goku’s last punch that he put all his effort into. There’s clearly a big problem with your logic that Goku got 100x stronger after UIO1 because that’s literally contradicted twice in the same fight. Mister Satan demande à Gokû s’il peut gagner, mais Gokû n’en est pas sûr, il est content d’avoir Gohan et Buu. Especially when regular blue Goku was fighting on par with a less suppressed Jiren. > Nice of you to ignore how I explained that’s completely irrelevant to why Goku has the AP advantage here. It’s very blatant and to deny such is ignorance along with mental gymnastics. Suppressed Jiren was not>Kefla. > I have to repeat myself because you have, on several occasions, come after me on this exact same topic. > Yes, because attempting upgrade Dragon Ball always goes > Jiren in 110 was fighting on par with UIO1. Ein Zuschauer betritt nach dem Ende des Kampfes den Kampfring, um Goku zum Kampf herauszufordern. How can Vegeta not sense her when she and Goku were the most powerful people fighting at the time? LordTracer wrote: Der Start des richtigen Turniers rückt ebenfalls näher und es bleibt nicht mehr viel Zeit.

With every UIO limit break, Goku’s strongest form was always still significantly beneath his previous UIO. Zen-Ohs Mini-Turnier wurde mittlerweile beendet, doch noch dürfen Goku und seine Freunde nicht in ihr Universum zurückkehren, denn Toppo betritt den Ring, um herauszufinden, ob Goku ein Schurke ist, der vernichtet werden muss. I asked for this earlier and you didn’t give anything. Also explain why UIO2 would be the only UIO to not give Goku a boost when both UIO1 and UIO3 did. There's literally no way he didn't sense her considering sensing Ki is damn near, if not actually a passive ability. Forum Posts How can base Goku be = ssj2 Caulifla when he was having trouble against robots that base Caulifla defeated? Gokû débute le match dans sa forme super saiyan, et Toppo enchaîne une série d’attaques de la même série : Justice Crusher, Justice Tornado.Il devient clair que Toppo est un spécialiste du combat rapproché, donc Gokû commence à s’éloigner. Also yes he received further amps after UIO2 nearly matching a hint of true power Jiren I'll set two scenarios but the main one and that's going to be added is a Normal Battle (so kill, KO or incap are allowed without ring outs). Whis indique que cela est naturel, il n’est qu’un « guide » attribué par l’au-delà à l’Univers 7. « Ange », « guide », … Beerus note que la position de Whis change suivant ce qui lui convient le mieux sur le moment.Gokû décide de rentrer sur Terre pour parler stratégie avec Bulma. Whis une fois de plus, stoppe la dispute entre Gokû et Beerus. Toppo is the leader of the Pride Troopers, a group from Universe 11 tasked with the protection of the universe from all that is evil. Vegeta was not shown sensing Kefla, so it requires less assumptions to say he didn’t. It was actually UIO1 which made him Low 2-C.

Wie in meinen bisherigen "Reviews" werde ich auch hier wieder auf den Inhalt der Episode genauer eingehen, weshalb ich eine klare Goku konnte seinen Kampf gegen Bergamo gewinnen und somit triumphierte unser Universum 7 über das Trio De Dangers aus Universum 9. And I just explained how it’s contradicted. Beerus et Whis se demandent si Gokû n’y est pas allé un peu trop fort et s’il n’a pas tué Toppo, mais quand la poussière retombe, Toppo est toujours vivant, mais furieux.

But is it enough to kill GoD Toppo before its timer runs out. Son Goku: Toppo Incon: Loading editor. Vegeta would have to be a brain dead idiot not to notice her power level!

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